Hello, everyone, and welcome to a Nut which skilfully combines several different flavors of fundamentalism within one cracked shell! I’m your host, QueenofSwords, and this week’s exhibit is as anti-evolution as the rest of his ilk, but takes the idiocy a step further by attributing science (which is a religion) to the evil Jews, who are also trying to push the homosexual agenda. It’s the religious version of the pizza-with-everything; it’s the last gasp of geocentrism; it’s the bizarre belief that
This is one of those positive affirmations, like “I am a slim healthy person”, which you just have to repeat a million times until it either comes true or convinces everyone else around you, which is the same thing. The man to whom this stunning revelation came is Marshall Hall, and his astrophysical breakthrough also allows him to pontificate on a variety of other topics, which he does in the article
What do you mean, “now”? For a long time, people have claimed that there’s no such thing as an atheist, that we all worship something whether we know it or not. I’m afraid you’ve been pipped at the post.
When I was an outspoken atheist
Every intolerant fundamentalist was an atheist once, and frequently an outspoken one. Why not start a club for yourselves – call it the Lord’s Institute for Atheists Reformed & Saved, with an acronym to match?
I based
and freebased
my position on what I believed to be purely objective, purely secular, truly scientific teachings about the origin and nature of the cosmos, of the earth itself, and all life forms on earth. In short, I passionately believed
And you still do, though perhaps not in the same thing, so the change seems to have been purely cosmetic. No need to alter your ways of thinking or examining evidence, because there weren’t any.
that the Copernican paradigm, the Big Bang paradigm, the Darwinian paradigm, and the Relativity paradigm explained all the pertinent facts related to the subjects with which they dealt.
The Darwinian paradigm? Man, to hear this former atheist speak, you’d think Darwin proposed abiogenesis, bred pea plants and excavated Olduvai Gorge all by himself.
Because of these convictions (reinforced by
extra-thick cotton padding in sensitive areas
professors and a ton of books), I concluded that only red-necked ignorami in bib-overalls could still believe in Biblical explanations for all the origins-related phenomena (or the Koran’s explanations, for that matter).
Someone’s being very selective about the origin myths they deride. I predict that when this, er, atheist does a complete 360, these will be the very holy books he looks up to.
1) There is no proof...no evidence whatsoever which conclusively demonstrates that the universe and the earth and all that exists came to be via the “Big Bang” explosion of a “cosmic egg” some 15 billion years ago.
I’m not sure whether a cosmic chicken or a cosmic Easter Bunny is responsible for the cosmic egg, but no doubt the glorious event of its hatching was preserved in their family albumen for ever.
There is, however, truly mountainous evidence from design alone which demands that there be a Designer.
An Interior Designer, one who knows about feng shui and can recommend the most adorable little bamboo plants.
This evidence erases any possibility that everything got to be as it is by accident resulting from an explosion.
Psst! I’ll take care of that strawman for you. But it’s not going to be easy. I’ll knock him down for a hundred, pluck out every bit of his stuffing for five hundred, and then let you jump up and down on the mangled remains for a thousand.
Any claim that purely secular Big Bangism
Is there a religious “Big Bangism”? Maybe that’s how Jesus was conceived.
provides an intelligent explanation for everything that exists must depend on a logic-denying faith in the impossible, a faith which must also throw hard laws of true science to the wind.
“Hard laws of true science” sounds like a ringing ultimatum uttered in a Western. “Out here in the raw wilderness, every man packs a six-shooter… but real men pull the trigger only to defend a lady’s honor… or the hard laws of true science. Draw.”
That reasoning--which has long had a certain respectability--is no longer viable for any thinking former Atheist driven to some kind of Deistic Agnosticism by the unchallengable Design=Designer conclusion.
Too bad he never took it any further, to the equally unchallengeable Designer=Designer conclusion. Then again, I’m not sure he was familiar with the concept of a thinking Atheist, or thinking former Atheist, or thinking anything.
The reason why that reasoning is no longer viable is this: Big Bangism is a religious teaching found written in a “holy book” over seven hundred years before it expressed itself as “Science”!
I don’t know about big bangs, but this silliness seems to have been inspired by a big bong.
One can believe in it if one wants to, but one can not do so and still claim that this explanation for the existence of everything is a Scientific concept
Perhaps God smote Mr. Hall one day because he failed to capitalize His name. Since Science is almost as scary and unfathomable, he hastens to pay it the same tribute before Science strikes him down with crabs.
free from teachings out of some “religious holy book” such as the Bible creation accounts! No. That position won’t fly anymore. Why....?
The presence of kryptonite, is my guess.
Here’s why: As you can read at the link entitled: “The Spiritual Roots of NASA’s Big Bang Premise”…
Forget challenging the science, since the defeater of strawmen knows his limitations.
the exact idea of modern science’s foundational Big Bang Premise for all that exists comes straight from the pen of Rabbi Ben Nachman in the 13th century and is recorded in the Kabbala.
So even a 13th century rabbi knew about the big bang? That doesn’t say much for modern-day fundamentalists; perhaps you should consider circumcision or eating kosher food in order to make yourselves just as smart.
There, along with the Zohar which it incorporates, and the Talmud (HERE) which is separate but kindred in its viscous anti-Christian,
You mean its style is as thick and convoluted as yours? Well then, you have my sympathy for your brave attempts to read it.
anti-New Testament teachings, you will find that modern Big Bang based cosmological science IS NOT A SECULAR SCIENTIFIC CONCEPT AT ALL, BUT RATHER, IS DERIVED DIRECTLY FROM ONE BRANCH OF RABBINICAL JUDAISM TAUGHT IN THE KABBALA [CABALA]....
Fundamentalists provide a small but untapped market for keyboards which have been adjusted to be capslocked all the time. Just convince them that Jesus spoke only in capitals, and you’ve closed the sale.
Anyone choosing to continue to embrace the Big Bang explanation for all that exists cannot do so and still claim to be an Atheist (or even a Deist or an Agnostic).
Because Atheism means a lack of belief in a god, and a rabbi wrote about the Big Bang, so we should call ourselves Jews, or Bangers, or maybe just Bigs. I’d call myself a rabbi, but I’d always be tempted to change it to rabbit and pretend I was in Watership Down.
Big Bangism is a teaching from a religious book about the Origins of everything.
Little Bangism, also known as Popism, is a teaching that science will do to a fundamentalist’s skull what an opera singer’s highest soprano does to every window in the house.
Though many Jews oppose those teachings and are hard-core Bible Creationists, those who do subscribe--Zionists chiefly--dominate in Israel and control policy everywhere else.
Yea verily, they are as the Catholics of Chickworld. This is the kind of person who stares worriedly at every American flag he sees, waiting for the moment when the stars grow an extra point.
As is made clear under the link above, Rabbi Nachman also advocated that branch of Jewish Nationalism which today is called Zionism. It will be noted also that Rabbi Nachman laid the groundwork for Einstein’s ideas (and championed reincarnation as well) .
And he wrote Protocols of the Elders of Zion when he wasn’t running the Roman Empire. He took a small break from his world domination plans when he landed on the moon, but soon he was back to patenting the polio vaccine and inventing television.
It also becomes too plain to miss that there is a clear choice being offered to everyone who sees what is going on...a choice between a Designer God
Not to be confused with Designer Jeans.
Who is the God of the Bible, and the Christ-hating, Energy-Created-Everything-god of the Kabbala.
A choice between the two? OK, eeny meeny miney mo.
Plainly, since both teachings about Origins are derived from “holy books” and not from factual science,
Well, at least Mr. Hall admits that there’s nothing scientific about creationism. You have to give him that much.
the label “Atheist” is a misnomer for anyone who chooses the side he/she thought was free of such “religious bias”...and then finds out differently.
I think we need to get some definitions straight, for the purpose of dealing with the alternate universe of this website :
That being the case, allow me--as a former atheist
Former atheism : Spawner of the most fearsome strawmen ever encountered. Former atheists usually look down on everyone who doesn’t think the way they do, making them ideal candidates for fundamentalism.
thoroughly deceived by the Kabbalistic teachings masquerading as “science” --
either too frightened or too ignorant to look up any actual science --
invite you hundreds of millions of atheists who are in that same boat right now to begin re-evaluating the situation, find out what the facts really are, and then do what your heart tells you is right.
Yes, forget about that lump of useless glop between your ears. This really sounds like a suggestion either a former atheist or Mariah Carey would make – listen to your heart, feel the love tonight, wo wo wo feeeee-lings.
In one very, very important way an honest atheist who deeply believes that the Big Bang and all the rest is established Truth which has totally destroyed Bible credibility
This isn’t so much an atheist as it is a twit who mistakes science for religion – in other words, the author. If any atheists out there are him, this webpage was written for them.
or any other Creator God idea, is in a position where God can work with him/her because he hasn’t compromised what he believes to be unshakable Truth.
God : This atheist elevates science to the position of a god, doesn’t believe in changing his mind if new evidence is presented, and doesn’t know how to determine the bible’s credibility. Why, he’s almost a christian! Well done, thou good and faithful servant!
“Science” can’t help them; it’s not a factor. There is no “Science” involved!
That must be a great relief for anyone afraid that actual thinking would be involved when discussing evolution or the formation of the universe.
It’s one religion--i.e., Kabbalism (with its Big Bangism, Zionism, Relativism, and animistic re-incarnationism--or another, i.e., Christian or Muslim.
So tell me more about this mysterious soup of a religion into which you’ve thrown all the ingredients you find either unpleasant (Hindusim) or incomprehensible (science). If it was on television, would that be Kabbal TV?
So Copernicanism is not just a little change from the sun going around the Earth to the Earth going around the sun.
Copernicanism, closely related to Vulcanism and Beercanism, seems to consider the sun larger than the earth, for some reason. Next thing you know, they’ll say that even other planets are larger – it’s a horrible conspiracy to make the inhabitants of earth feel small and un-special! But the bible says clearly, “God so loved the world that he made the sun go around it every day.”
Huh uh. Rather, Copernicanism is the indispensable and carefully laid foundation upon which modern day Kabbalist cosmology stands triumphant and seemingly beyond attack, much less exposure and defeat.
Well, take that, modern day Kabbalist cosmology! One man, armed only with an aluminium hat and a capslock key, dares to challenge your stranglehold on science (or religion, or politics, or whatever science is about).
…billions of years are needed in both the Big Bang paradigm and the Darwinian paradigm. Neither concept can survive without those billions of years, and both concepts have flourished very nicely after being granted those billions of years.
Is there a race involved, with the winner being the one who claims to create the world in the shortest period of time? Or is it just hard to count above twenty, with a billion being well-nigh incomprehensible?
One paradigm has totally conquered
Like, wow, totally? Radical, dude. Did it say Veni vidi vici as well?
the Physical “sciences” of Astronomy and Physics with its invented mathematics from Copernicus thru Newton to Einstein.
Just curious – are there any fields of science in this alternate universe or are the folk of Fixworld back in Leviticus, sacrificing doves for anything from leprosy to a wet dream?
The other paradigm has almost but not quite conquered the Natural or Life or Biological “sciences”, partly by totally falsifiable fossil claims, partly through thoroughly discredited homology and recapitulation forays, partly thru counterproductive hypotheses about mutations, gene recombinations, natural selection, and other big talk.
Well, I promise not to use any “big talk”. See Hall. See Hall think. Think, Hall, think. Oh, dear. RIP Hall.
But their main prop has been and now is a big beaker full of arcane-sounding time dating techniques that would be comical if they weren’t taken so seriously.
Speaking of “big talk”, Mr. Hall, is the use of the word “beaker” supposed to give the impression that you’re a scientific hotshot familiar with all the latest parlance? Maybe it would help if you gave the beaker a brand name, like Nalgene. Then people will really think you’re smart.
Many excellent books by Creation scientists blow all these techniques away,
Many books by creation “scientists” blow, period.
Still, with polls and School Board rebellions, etc., continuing to show a deep and wide grass roots resistance to evolution’s crazy claims,
It’s funny how those crazy claims always involve human beings. No one ever disputes E. coli and Salmonella having a common ancestor, but mention humans and the screaming starts.
there is always a sense of a job not completed on the part of evolutionary zealots who mean to silence that resistance once and for all by “proving” extraterrestrial (and hence, terrestrial) evolutionism thru NASA’s high tech, Big Bang-dependent “Origins Program”.
Extraterrestrial evolutionism? This must be the belief that Jesus evolved from god, explaining the vast differences in their managerial styles. Of course Jesus did not evolve; he was designed and painstakingly built by a crack team of Japanese roboticists.
Once the Kabbalist Big Bang/Expanding Universe teaching is understood to be Religion and not science,
I don’t know which one Mr. Hall is more afraid of – the vast and mysterious entity known only as “science”, or the idea that the universe might be getting larger. Perhaps he measures himself by the size of the world he lives in, and is now the Incredible Shrinking Man.
the never disproved Geocentric Model of the universe with our stationary Earth at the center is seen to be the only alternative model available which accommodates all the phenomena!
Let me guess – when Mr. Hall sees a map of his homeland, he draws a big red X in the exact center of it and says, “There’s my house!”
We know the sun arises in the East and sets in the West because we see it do that and no one has ever seen it do anything else.
Oh ye of little memory! Have you not read your own bible, man, where Joshua makes the sun stand still? No one has ever seen it do anything else, indeed.
Seriously, though, I just hope no one ever shows this guy a Necker cube, an Ames room, or one of those other optical-illusion drawings. He’d go insane. Well, insaner.
The only big question one has to answer now is whether the Kabbalist/Talmudic god who teaches Hatred of all but the Jew, who endorses Murder, Sodomy, Pedophilia, Lying, Cheating, Stealing (HERE),
Wheeling, Dealing, Potato Peeling; Healing, Squealing and Touching the Ceiling. Seriously, though, what is with the inconsistent capitalization? Is that supposed to make the sins appear scarier? Suggestion, Marshall : for an even more bizarre effect, capitalize random lettErs throuGhout the wordS, then you’ll look Klingon, rather than silly.
Big Bangism, Zionism, Relativity, Reincarnation, and more (HERE)...is your kind of g-d or if you much prefer a God Who is the opposite of all this.
If you want a god who is the opposite of all this, please consider a discreet, safe and painless neutering operation for your god. Best of all, he won’t be breeding afterwards.
There is pie in the sky after all...and eternity to enjoy it.
Thanks a bunch, that made me think of the movie American Pie – in heaven they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but it seems they’ll find adequate substitutes. Luckily this image was soon replaced by one far more disturbing; the overwhelming paranoia is exceeded only by the self-delusion of Holocaust denial in the article
Lenin and Stalin instituted Hate Crime laws early on in the officially atheistic Soviet Union...one of the first being to outlaw any anti-Jewish speech or writings.
And Hitler quickly followed suit, going so far as to construct special places where Jews could go to think (also known as “concentration camps”).
The mechanism for implementing Hate Crime laws is, of course, the courts. With a One World Government about to become reality,
A One World Government? There isn’t even a One Continent Government, unless you count Australia, and that’s mostly kangaroos anyway.
there will need to be a World Court. This Court--without jury, bail, or appeal--
Just like god judging everyone, in other words.
will see to it that Draconian Hate Crime laws are instituted which mandate slavery and death to all who dare challenge them.
Pardon me for asking, O Prophet of Doom, but what exactly is the use in a dead slave? Unless you have the Draconians eating them, I suppose.
The law then will be: If you hate lies ( i.e., what the Government’s Court [and rubber-stamp legislature] says is true), you are guilty. Period… This lie concerns the demonstrably false claims that Hitler exterminated Six Million Jews during WWII.
I’m not sure why “Six Million” is capitalized. Perhaps the author is thinking of the Six Million Dollar Man, undoubtedly as real to him as the rest of his conspiracy theories.
Even Jewish writers have scaled down this number greatly, and ace Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal himself has admitted that there were no gas chambers.
And yet he continues to hunt the innocent, misrepresented Nazis? Hey, the Nazis may not have had gas chambers, but I’ll bet there’s plenty of gaslighting going on.
The evidence is clear: most of those who died were shot on the Eastern Front,
At first the Nazis used 35 mm Leicas, but when those failed to dissuade the vicious Jews, they had to resort to Lugers instead.
and a large percentage of those were Partisan fighters against the Germans…
For a bunch of Partisan fighters, they certainly did a lot of hiding in attics and ghettos. I suppose the other percentage were taking advantage of the Germans’ generosity by living in comfortable camps and using their medical insurance to call Dr. Mengele out at all hours of the day and night.
There are still so many survivors getting money and TV time that it is obvious that
there’s a lot of money and TV time which could be devoted to better causes, such as… oh, I don’t know… promoting Biblical And/Or Quranical Anti-Kabbalistic Geocentricism.
there either weren’t very many Jews who died in the camps or that the Germans were not very efficient in carrying out their alleged "Final Solution".
Since the author seems to operate on broad stereotypes, it’s no surprise that he finds it impossible to imagine the Germans being less than efficient. Don’t mention people like Schindler to him. There’s skull space for only so many ideas at one time.
They are… getting set to deliver their one-two knock-out punches, i.e., those laws that would make it a "hate crime" punishable with fines and imprisonment to: 1) challenge any aspect of the Holocaust;
And some day, when you make a supreme effort and manage to challenge that, then you should start feeling scared. Until then, you couldn’t challenge a treatise on unicorn genetics.
2) say or write anything critical of any "identifiable group" ,e.g., Jews especially, and also homosexuals and other "alternative" lifestyles.
Even being persecuted is better than being ignored. If I taunt you a little more, will you be happy and toddle off to write about the magnificent opportunity you had to defend your faith?
(Clearly, the goal of #2 is to criminalize Bible honoring Christians who would speak out against the homosexual agenda, for example. They could then be charged with a "hate crime" because of "group defamation". )
I think that if Marshall Hall ever met a gay Jewish evolutionary biologist, he would shriek in terror, believing that god had left him behind to meet the antichrist. This website should be titled The Earth Is Not Moving, But The Jews Sure As Hell Are, So Stop Them Before They Get To Me. Capitals and all. And maybe a few smiley faces with black toothbrush mustaches.
Till next week, everyone!
QueenofSwords